Good golly! Today started out sunny and breezy. As the day wore on, it remained sunny and breezy. And believe it or not, come around cruise-in time, it was still sunny and breezy.
What a pleasant and appreciated change. We trotted on over to meet friends at Blast From The Past (Waterboro). In spite of being July 4th, a LOT of folks showed up. The lot was nearly full. Just goes to show what good weather, good folks and a good host can accomplish when they all come together.
We conducted balloting for the HotKarz Super Cruise while we were there. And because there were so many great vehicles, we got a slew of ballots for many cars and trucks. This is going to be a real horse race, folks.
Next week, balloting will be held at Riverside Dairy (Lisbon Falls) on Wednesday, and Hodgman's Frozen Custard (New Gloucester) on Saturday, weather permitting. If you show up, you increase your chances.
Now on a more serious note, HotKarz is trying to connect with a certain individual, and we are seeking your help. The person is named Joe, and he owns Betty Lou, the '51 blue Ford, registered as MY PRAYER. He is a minister for a church in Lewiston. About a month ago he underwent surgery, and since we have not seen nor heard from him, we would very much like to learn how we can get in touch with him, so we can touch base. If you know how we can contact him, please email me at ptwoodycrew@aol.com. We are concerned. Joe is a wonderful gentleman, and we want him to know that he is missed.
Happy 4th, folks. Please take a moment to think about what America means to you.
Later!
Friday, July 4, 2008
Are Boomers "Unpatriotic"?
A liberal professor, Andrew Yarrow, has just published an "expert opinion" that states if Baby Boomers retire when they are supposed to, they are "unpatriotic". Wow! Leave it to liberals to come up with that tidbit.
He states that because Social Security is in trouble, we should refrain from "sucking up taxpayer money" until we are much older - he probably hopes we will die before we collect.
What he and his cohorts refuse to acknowledge is the simple fact that Social Security is not "taxpayer money" as is income tax. Social Security is OUR money. It is an insurance program, not a tax program. We pay into it for 40 years, then we get to draw on our little pension when we retire.
Yarrow, like most liberals, do not believe it is our money. They believe that socialism is the way to go (though it has failed in every nation that took that road). They refuse to acknowledge that in the 50 odd years the liberals held Congress after Social Security was created, that Congress misappropriated and wasted our heritage - they tapped Social Security for other pet projects and pork. And now, after wasting our money, they want us to refrain from claiming what is ours, and to keep working and PAYING in so they can continue with the pork-barrel spending.
Frankly, I am tired of liberals always creating problems, then calling people unpatriotic when we get in their way of collecting more taxes to spend on their stupid pork projects, just so they can "buy" votes in their district. Yes, pork is how politicians buy votes. They get on the stump and show how they brought all that money and all those jobs to their district. And that gets them re-elected over and over.
The way I figure it, pork should be outlawed completely. If a politician has to buy votes in order to get elected, he or she should not get elected. Let them run and keep their jobs on their merits, just like the rest of us - if they do a good job, we will re-elect them. If they don't - adios, amigo!
The amount that Congress has appriated in pork projects since the '40's is enough money that if set aside to earn interest, would fund Social Security well into the next century and beyond. Our leaders blew our inheritance. We trusted them with it, and they failed us miserably.
So, who is to blame? WE are. Those money-grabbing politicians could not have done this had WE not elected them, if WE had kept an eye on them, and if WE had held them accountable. Ask yourself, how often have you voted for someone without actually knowing where he or she stood on issues, or what their record actually was? All too often we cast our ballots for lousy candidates because we just do not bother to check their credentials. We are hiring them for a job, but we are not checking out their references. Should we be surprised when our employees rob us blind?
Though ultimately the fault lies with us as much as it lies with the politicians who have robbed us, it does not excuse Yarrow for claiming that we are "unpatriotic" if we attempt to collect what is owed to us, and what we deserve. What is ours!
Every time we go to the polls, we should be making a strong effort to remind the politicians just whose money it is that they are entrusted with spending wisely. It does not belong to them. It belongs to us. And when they whine and try to tell you that taxes no longer belong to us, but to the government, simply smile and remind them that WE are the government - OF the people, BY the people and FOR the people. So it is ALWAYS our money, and they need to start acting like good wards, and not fat-bellied thieves robbing the federal coffers.
And if Professor Yarrow is teaching our children, he should be removed. Our children should be learning how to be more responsible, and not how to escape responsibility by sweeping problems under the rug.
He states that because Social Security is in trouble, we should refrain from "sucking up taxpayer money" until we are much older - he probably hopes we will die before we collect.
What he and his cohorts refuse to acknowledge is the simple fact that Social Security is not "taxpayer money" as is income tax. Social Security is OUR money. It is an insurance program, not a tax program. We pay into it for 40 years, then we get to draw on our little pension when we retire.
Yarrow, like most liberals, do not believe it is our money. They believe that socialism is the way to go (though it has failed in every nation that took that road). They refuse to acknowledge that in the 50 odd years the liberals held Congress after Social Security was created, that Congress misappropriated and wasted our heritage - they tapped Social Security for other pet projects and pork. And now, after wasting our money, they want us to refrain from claiming what is ours, and to keep working and PAYING in so they can continue with the pork-barrel spending.
Frankly, I am tired of liberals always creating problems, then calling people unpatriotic when we get in their way of collecting more taxes to spend on their stupid pork projects, just so they can "buy" votes in their district. Yes, pork is how politicians buy votes. They get on the stump and show how they brought all that money and all those jobs to their district. And that gets them re-elected over and over.
The way I figure it, pork should be outlawed completely. If a politician has to buy votes in order to get elected, he or she should not get elected. Let them run and keep their jobs on their merits, just like the rest of us - if they do a good job, we will re-elect them. If they don't - adios, amigo!
The amount that Congress has appriated in pork projects since the '40's is enough money that if set aside to earn interest, would fund Social Security well into the next century and beyond. Our leaders blew our inheritance. We trusted them with it, and they failed us miserably.
So, who is to blame? WE are. Those money-grabbing politicians could not have done this had WE not elected them, if WE had kept an eye on them, and if WE had held them accountable. Ask yourself, how often have you voted for someone without actually knowing where he or she stood on issues, or what their record actually was? All too often we cast our ballots for lousy candidates because we just do not bother to check their credentials. We are hiring them for a job, but we are not checking out their references. Should we be surprised when our employees rob us blind?
Though ultimately the fault lies with us as much as it lies with the politicians who have robbed us, it does not excuse Yarrow for claiming that we are "unpatriotic" if we attempt to collect what is owed to us, and what we deserve. What is ours!
Every time we go to the polls, we should be making a strong effort to remind the politicians just whose money it is that they are entrusted with spending wisely. It does not belong to them. It belongs to us. And when they whine and try to tell you that taxes no longer belong to us, but to the government, simply smile and remind them that WE are the government - OF the people, BY the people and FOR the people. So it is ALWAYS our money, and they need to start acting like good wards, and not fat-bellied thieves robbing the federal coffers.
And if Professor Yarrow is teaching our children, he should be removed. Our children should be learning how to be more responsible, and not how to escape responsibility by sweeping problems under the rug.
Horseflies
You know what I'm talking about! You walk out into the fields, or down the trail and a few pesky horseflies insist on buzzing you like those biplanes that pestered King Kong. At first, you try to ignore them, but they keep making their kamikaze flights around your noggin. So you start to try brushing them away, swinging your hat at them. Still they persist. So you stop, let them land, then SPLAT! They really don't give you any choice.
Well, these last few days a few "horseflies" representing the Sanford Elks have been making themselves pesky. At first, I tried ignoring them. Didn't work. Then I published one of their dumb emails, hoping that would embarras them enough to "buzz off". Didn't work. The same bunch keeps spewing their drivel and insults, and refuse to accept that their show had issues. One told me that if the car folks don't like it, they should shut up. Another said their only concern was the money they could get from us, and hinted we should be "thankful" for what they offer.
So, now you might think the time has come for me to stop and do the SPLAT! thing. And perhaps I should. But I won't. It does test my willpower, I'll admit, but I like to think that at my age, I have become better than that. But I am sorely disappointed that such people represent such a venerable organization. I have been involved in numerous Elk's clubs and their events for many years, and I know them to be a very worthy organization. So, though they are represntatives of the Elks, I cannot and will not lower my regard for the organization. But my regard for those individuals is non-existent.
So, in spite of their incessant buzzing, I move on. They do not deserve any more of my concern or consideration. And if the Sanford Elks decide to keep those clowns on the Show committee for next year, I see little hope of any improvement.
So I will simply offer this little pearl of wisdom for anyone involved in putting together a show, or starting a business, or applying for a job, or even getting married as the rules are the same:
Success and wealth comes not from chasing the dollar, but from helping others to succeed. If you do your job well enough to make Mr. Boss happy, you keep your job, and maybe get a raise, because he NEEDS you. If you make your customers happy, they will keep coming back and throw money at you because they NEED you. If you make your spouse happy, your own peace and quiet is assured because the NEED your support. And if you make your car show patrons happy, they will support you in spades, because they NEED you. They need you because you are helping them to achieve success. What goes around, comes around.
But if the money is what you covet and go after, both it and success will ultimately evade you. You may do well in the short run, but as folks tire of your attitude, they will leave you in the lurch.
Success is a natural by-product of helping others. Failure is a natural by-product of thinking only of your own needs.
And that's a fact, Jack! If I can pass anything on to future generations, let it be that.
Nuthin' more to say on this topic. Time to move on...
Speaking of flies, an old friend stopped by this morning and said he was going fly fishing. I know he's gettin' old and all, and he's becoming a bit strange, but this really perplexed me. Fly fishing! Hell, I don't know why anyone would want to fish for flies, but if he really wants to, he can sit out on the manure pile out back and fish for all he wants. No limit. But for cripes sake, don't ask me to bait the hook...
Well, these last few days a few "horseflies" representing the Sanford Elks have been making themselves pesky. At first, I tried ignoring them. Didn't work. Then I published one of their dumb emails, hoping that would embarras them enough to "buzz off". Didn't work. The same bunch keeps spewing their drivel and insults, and refuse to accept that their show had issues. One told me that if the car folks don't like it, they should shut up. Another said their only concern was the money they could get from us, and hinted we should be "thankful" for what they offer.
So, now you might think the time has come for me to stop and do the SPLAT! thing. And perhaps I should. But I won't. It does test my willpower, I'll admit, but I like to think that at my age, I have become better than that. But I am sorely disappointed that such people represent such a venerable organization. I have been involved in numerous Elk's clubs and their events for many years, and I know them to be a very worthy organization. So, though they are represntatives of the Elks, I cannot and will not lower my regard for the organization. But my regard for those individuals is non-existent.
So, in spite of their incessant buzzing, I move on. They do not deserve any more of my concern or consideration. And if the Sanford Elks decide to keep those clowns on the Show committee for next year, I see little hope of any improvement.
So I will simply offer this little pearl of wisdom for anyone involved in putting together a show, or starting a business, or applying for a job, or even getting married as the rules are the same:
Success and wealth comes not from chasing the dollar, but from helping others to succeed. If you do your job well enough to make Mr. Boss happy, you keep your job, and maybe get a raise, because he NEEDS you. If you make your customers happy, they will keep coming back and throw money at you because they NEED you. If you make your spouse happy, your own peace and quiet is assured because the NEED your support. And if you make your car show patrons happy, they will support you in spades, because they NEED you. They need you because you are helping them to achieve success. What goes around, comes around.
But if the money is what you covet and go after, both it and success will ultimately evade you. You may do well in the short run, but as folks tire of your attitude, they will leave you in the lurch.
Success is a natural by-product of helping others. Failure is a natural by-product of thinking only of your own needs.
And that's a fact, Jack! If I can pass anything on to future generations, let it be that.
Nuthin' more to say on this topic. Time to move on...
Speaking of flies, an old friend stopped by this morning and said he was going fly fishing. I know he's gettin' old and all, and he's becoming a bit strange, but this really perplexed me. Fly fishing! Hell, I don't know why anyone would want to fish for flies, but if he really wants to, he can sit out on the manure pile out back and fish for all he wants. No limit. But for cripes sake, don't ask me to bait the hook...
Thursday, July 3, 2008
A Thank You to Dick Fritz
Got a call from Fritz today. Seems his fingers get in the way when using a keyboard, so he would like to see it easier to find the worthwhile events. Many folks just go to the "SHOWS" section, and miss the events altogether.
I had not considered that before. So, with a tip 'o the hat to Dick, today I combined shows and events on the same page. However, on the calendar, date-by-date, each still has it's own section.
I hope this makes things easier for all, and helps to assure no one will miss out on the great events that take place throughout the season, like the Super Cruise - Family Style, and the Togus Veteran's Picnic among others.
I had not considered that before. So, with a tip 'o the hat to Dick, today I combined shows and events on the same page. However, on the calendar, date-by-date, each still has it's own section.
I hope this makes things easier for all, and helps to assure no one will miss out on the great events that take place throughout the season, like the Super Cruise - Family Style, and the Togus Veteran's Picnic among others.
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
Upcoming Events
Just so you do not forget, the Maine Coastal Cruisers is putting on their first annual Super Cruise on July 12 & 13th. You really do not want to miss this spectacular event. As many of you are aware, Maine Coastal Cruisers always puts a lot of thought, planning and effort into all that they do, so this event is destined to be a great time for all. Cruisin' to Willowbrook, dancin' at the Hop, eatin' and more. Check it out.
A good many of you folks will likely go to the Kora show at Twitchell Airport in Auburn July 12 and 13, instead. It's a big show, and a lot of fun - a great cruise, a nice BBQ and good entertainment. But we went last year and will not return because of an incident I mentioned last year. During the judging, two judges passed our car and one said openly, "New Hampshire car. No way will it win around here." That comment, and how openly it was made really rankled my whole family. And I did notice that the vast majority of "winners" appeared to be local to that area, although that may have been coincidence. So this year, we will likely participate in the Super Cruise on the 12th and hit the Ossipee Valley Fair Car Show on Sunday the 13th - after all, it isn't every show where you can get fried dough! Besides, it's only a few miles from my house, and gas is at a premium this year :o)
And while I realize it is still several weeks away, please make sure you mark your calendar on August 17th for the now famous "Togus Veterans Picnic". This event has rightfully become THE event of the year. The veterans who "gave too much" always appreciate the event, and they surely deserve our full support. If there is any way you can fit this into your schedule, please do - you will not regret it.
As a side note, someone mentioned a great idea for those of us who have managed to collect too many trophies, and have taken to tossing them into the garage. Why not recycle them for a good cause? Simply remove the brass plate (you can mount them on a display board that takes up less room), and donate the trophies to the Special Olympics. Those wonderful folks really go crazy over winning a trophy, and it brings great joy to them. And if you cannot bring yourself to recycle all your trophies, hold out those that are most important to you, then recycle the rest. What a great testament to our hobby!
A good many of you folks will likely go to the Kora show at Twitchell Airport in Auburn July 12 and 13, instead. It's a big show, and a lot of fun - a great cruise, a nice BBQ and good entertainment. But we went last year and will not return because of an incident I mentioned last year. During the judging, two judges passed our car and one said openly, "New Hampshire car. No way will it win around here." That comment, and how openly it was made really rankled my whole family. And I did notice that the vast majority of "winners" appeared to be local to that area, although that may have been coincidence. So this year, we will likely participate in the Super Cruise on the 12th and hit the Ossipee Valley Fair Car Show on Sunday the 13th - after all, it isn't every show where you can get fried dough! Besides, it's only a few miles from my house, and gas is at a premium this year :o)
And while I realize it is still several weeks away, please make sure you mark your calendar on August 17th for the now famous "Togus Veterans Picnic". This event has rightfully become THE event of the year. The veterans who "gave too much" always appreciate the event, and they surely deserve our full support. If there is any way you can fit this into your schedule, please do - you will not regret it.
As a side note, someone mentioned a great idea for those of us who have managed to collect too many trophies, and have taken to tossing them into the garage. Why not recycle them for a good cause? Simply remove the brass plate (you can mount them on a display board that takes up less room), and donate the trophies to the Special Olympics. Those wonderful folks really go crazy over winning a trophy, and it brings great joy to them. And if you cannot bring yourself to recycle all your trophies, hold out those that are most important to you, then recycle the rest. What a great testament to our hobby!
Flawless Perfection
As most of you know, I have issues with "kit cars" that vie in the same class as originals. And while it may sound like prejudice, that is not the case.
For the record, I do not consider every vehicle with molded fiberglass parts to be a "kit" car. My take on a kit is any vehicle that is built from the ground up from new parts - a new car that is designed to copy or mimic an older one. Using molded parts to restore an old classic does not result in a kit car.
My concern with kit cars lies with the simple fact that they automatically have an unfair advantage over originals. Since they are new, they do not have the "wear and tear" of years and mileage. And because they are usually fiberglass, their perfect, seemless molded bodies are inherently flawless and glass-like. Steel bodies simply cannot compete on that level of modern perfection. Pitting a kit car against an original is much like comparing a tight, pre-fab modular home with a drafty old farmhouse.
I love kit cars, and have often considered a 1956 Jag XK C-type or '55 T-Bird replicar. But they should compete in their own class, just like any other vehicle. If I were to pit the 56 XKC replica against an original 56 XKC, the original would not stand a chance.
And that is the issue I have with kit cars. All cars should be judged among its peers, according to it's class. A "1965" KIT car that is actually built in 2005 should not be in the same class as a true 1965, because the kit is NOT a 1965. It only LOOKS like one.
Many shows have a class for kit cars and replicas, and that is fine. They are competing against their peers. And that is as it should be. But to allow a brand new, perfectly molded kit '29 Mercedes to compete against its original counterpart is simply unfair.
That is my opinion, and I am fully aware that it probably is not shared by all, or even most other enthusiasts. I do not intend to offend anyone, though I probably have. What offends me is when someone has an unfair advantage over another. And kit cars do have an unfair advantage. How does one compete fairly against flawless modern perfection?
For the record, I do not consider every vehicle with molded fiberglass parts to be a "kit" car. My take on a kit is any vehicle that is built from the ground up from new parts - a new car that is designed to copy or mimic an older one. Using molded parts to restore an old classic does not result in a kit car.
My concern with kit cars lies with the simple fact that they automatically have an unfair advantage over originals. Since they are new, they do not have the "wear and tear" of years and mileage. And because they are usually fiberglass, their perfect, seemless molded bodies are inherently flawless and glass-like. Steel bodies simply cannot compete on that level of modern perfection. Pitting a kit car against an original is much like comparing a tight, pre-fab modular home with a drafty old farmhouse.
I love kit cars, and have often considered a 1956 Jag XK C-type or '55 T-Bird replicar. But they should compete in their own class, just like any other vehicle. If I were to pit the 56 XKC replica against an original 56 XKC, the original would not stand a chance.
And that is the issue I have with kit cars. All cars should be judged among its peers, according to it's class. A "1965" KIT car that is actually built in 2005 should not be in the same class as a true 1965, because the kit is NOT a 1965. It only LOOKS like one.
Many shows have a class for kit cars and replicas, and that is fine. They are competing against their peers. And that is as it should be. But to allow a brand new, perfectly molded kit '29 Mercedes to compete against its original counterpart is simply unfair.
That is my opinion, and I am fully aware that it probably is not shared by all, or even most other enthusiasts. I do not intend to offend anyone, though I probably have. What offends me is when someone has an unfair advantage over another. And kit cars do have an unfair advantage. How does one compete fairly against flawless modern perfection?
Tuesday, July 1, 2008
Heat Tempers the Steel
I thought it appropriate to share with you one of two emails I received from the Elks of Sanford, in regard to my post about their car show last weekend. The method they have chosen to correct the problems with their show is to ban HotKarz and I from attending next year. Of course, I would not have attended, anyway, unless the issues I mentioned were addressed. The reason I am posting this is two-fold:
1) It is my opinion that, as the participants in these shows, you have a right to see what goes on when an effort is made to bring issues to light in hopes they will get fixed - and the resistance that comes from it, and
2) I would like your feedback. HotKarz.com is attempting to make things better you, eventually, by raising legitimate issues, and pointing out problems so shows can improve for us all. It is a cinch that they will not improve if we, as this gentleman suggests, just "shut up and accept it." So please, let me know if you think I am off-base, or if I am "right on", or anything in between. HotKarz.com is here for your benefit, not mine. It can serve you best if you let me know where I go right, and where I go wrong. The "battle" won't be easy, or without casualties - many organizers like being able to take advantage of the participants, and do not want to change. There are many really good shows, as evidenced by those of the Knucklebusters, Yankee Cruisers, Rusty Nuts, Two Trails Cruisers, BSA of Stratham NH, Kiwanis of Concord NH, Foster's Daily Democrat of Dover NH, and many others. And I do not think it is too much to expect for others to make an attempt to put on a decent show. It is relatively simple to make most changes, and can actually save organizers money and increase profits.
Here is the letter - and my replies added into it, and returned to the sender:
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-----Original Message-----From: STEVEN HORNE <schorne@verizon.net>To: ptwoodycrew@aol.comSent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 8:34 pmSubject: Response to your blogs of this weekend#
>I expect to see this posted in it's entirety
>Steve
[REPLY] Thank you for writing. First, I write the BLOG, not you.
That said, please allow me to respond to your rather crude letter.
>While I suppose commendations should be in order for a “Simple Man” to have gained such a stature in society as to be able to hit rock bottom before launching himself to a place of such self imposed knowledge and power; I hesitate to do so, for fear that any validation of your assumed knowledge of how to actually plan, operate and manage an Auto Show would gain you any type of audience.
[REPLY] Your opinion and knowledge of my life, or my position, is ZERO, and is of no consequence, and has no place in any discussion about your show or my blog. Please refrain from such crude and low remarks in any future communications.
>The statements you make of the “Elks Club Car Show” are very hurtful and obviously meant to be malicious and callous, as you admit in your profile … “I manage to piss people off”….
[REPLY] Wrong again. They are meant to call attention to problems - and it appears they have. The only question is whether or not the Elks have any intention of improving their show in the future. It has obviously escaped you that, while you run the show to make a profit, you could make no profit without the participation of car owners. And to get that, there is an obligation to treat them with respect. The Elks failed in that, as attested to by MANY voices of participants I spoke with, and have received emails from.
>If you would have taken the time to inquire with the Chairmen of this event, you would have gained some knowledge of the dedicated and hard working folks who volunteer their spare time in an effort to make a difference in society.
[REPLY] I do understand and appreciate the efforts of the Elks in their work. It is the car show that we have issues with, and those issues are justified.
>I would have been happy to discuss your thoughts and concerns and introduced to our team of folks who always strive to do a better job and create a better “Show” for the Auto enthusiast.
[REPLY] My time and resources are limited - I do not have the time to chase down and meet with all car show organizers. I do take the time to track down shows, and post them so car folk will know about them. We posted your show, and promoted it. Several of the vehicles that attended only did so because of HotKarz.com. It is not my job to help you put together a good show. My job is to point out where work is needed, and hope that the organizers pick up on that and use the criticism to create a better show in the future.
>But instead you have chosen to question and insult the integrity of not only the show, but the individuals who volunteer but also the Elks Lodge as well as the “Pet Projects” for which the event was to raise much needed funds.
[REPLY] I did nothing of the kind. Your show had serious flaws. I pointed them out, truthfully. If the truth hurts, then that is evidence that you need to make changes. I will not say a show is "good" just to spare someone's feelings. If it is good, I will say so. If it is not, I will say so. That does not in any way relate to insulting the Elks ot its projects. Only the car show.
>If you had bothered to come forward with your thoughts and concerns you speak of in your blog; I would have told you, in years past we did establish and mark off certain areas by class,
[REPLY] All well and good. But that was not the case this year. When you charge car folks to put their $100,000 investments at risk for your benefit, you have an obligation to treat them with respect. Not ONE participant that I spoke with felt they were being treated respectfully - believe it or not, it was the Elks that were insulting. When you charge car people and then don't follow through by holding up your end, that is an insult. We held up our end, and you made money from us. What did you provide in return? No organization, no assistance, and one trophy per class - and a tiny one at that.
>AND I would have told you, over time, the folks who MOST OFTEN ATTEND this show, prefer to park where they like, thus FRIENDS can be with FRIENDS to socialize and enjoy each others company;
[REPLY] Well, I guess they did not show up this year because I spoke with close to 80% of the participants, and NOT ONE of them appreciated not having distinct classes. I would also be willing to send you a sample email I received from one of your "regulars", who has attended - and won - for three years. And even he said "Right On, Brother".
>If you had come to me and asked “What is this week’s “Pet Project”? I would have told you the proceeds help support the Sanford Elks Lodge “DRUG AWARENESS PROGRAM” which is recognized by local, state and federal governments as being the 2nd longest running drug awareness program in the country, (1st being the DARE program) . Our program goes into the local schools and establishes dialogue and openness amongst 3rd graders so they may be able to recognize and distinguish , not only bad drugs from acceptable medicine but also to distinguish bad people from those who are there to help and protect them. We do this through essay contest and poster contests and are always very well received by the school departments we approach.
[REPLY] As I said, I do appreciate the work of the Elks. Very much so. But by the same token, I simply cannot say the same about your car show. I have attended over 4000 shows in 24 states in my time. I know when a show is good and when it is not. And I speak to many participants at each show, and my blog is a true representation of the feedback THEY provide.
>When you discuss the “Trophies”, I see you as being extremely hypocritical, which is ironic, because your profile claims you hate hypocrisy? First you say trophies don’t matter, and then you say there was “only one small trophy for each class”.
[REPLY] That is not hypocrisy. I say that trophies are not the "be all" of car shows. And they are not. But is IS the method that is commonly accepted and used for show organizers to show their appreciation to the many people who risk their investment for you. It validates their work, their investment. It provides a sense of competition, and satisfaction. When you offer but one small trophy per class, you are telling the participants that you do not value what THEY have provided for your benefit - and they provide far more than you. For every 100 cars that show, there is $5-10 million dollars sitting there.
>I’ll say this, … we purchased our Trophies and Dash Plaques from a small company from Wisconsin (Rallye Productions, Inc) they are very nice folks and quite accommodating to our small show. This year’s invoice for awards and dash plaques totaled about $550. Ask your children to divide that out (it equals 110 entries at $5.00 each) in order to just break even. We registered 79 autos ($395)…. need I say more,….. Oh, I think I will…
[REPLY] You are being disingenuous. First, just because you choose to overpay for those things does not validate your position. HotKarz.com provides trophies, also. Most of ours are quite impressive, because that is what tells participants that we do appreciate them. And we could purchase larger and more trophies for far less than Rallye charges. In addition, you made money from the 50/50, did you not? And just WHO bought those? And then there was the very over-priced breakfast, and you sold MANY of those. So if it is your intent to tell me you did not make money, then I would have to object. And, if you do not make money from shows, why do you keep having them?
Furthermore, most show organizers are wise enough to get sponsors who pay for the trophies in a class. NAPA might pay for 3 trophies for "Special Interest", while the local pub might pay for the trophies for Street Rods. Get 24 sponsors, and you could have 3 fine trophies in 24 classes. THAT would draw far more vehicles, and earn you far more money. And you would SAVE that $550. By following the lead of those who understand how to run a show, your show could be huge, and much more profitable.
>We always need another source of income to help this project out, so we chose to order T-shirts, this years invoice was approximately $1039, we purchased 96 shirts, …ask your kids to stay in the room, … that equals $10.83 ea ( we’re selling them for $15.00) if we could sell all of them we would make $400. This year’s show sold $157.
[REPLY] Very high quality shirts can be had for far less. A shop in Portland makes ours for $6 per. As for "another source of income", that might not be necessary if you were to use sponsors to pay for things for you, as the successful shows do. (Kiwanis of Concord NH has it down to a science - their sponsors pay for huge trophies in 36 classes, and also provide over 200 door prizes AND substantial goody bags - all at ZERO cost to Kiwanis). It pays to work hard, but it pays better to work smart.
>Also, we chose to run our Chuck Wagon; we sell burgers, fries, dogs and soda. Our invoice this year was about $500, including propane and paper goods. We took in $680.25 and had about a third of the purchased food left over.
[REPLY] I'm sure the weather had something to do with that.
>The ballot system is the result of 14 years of operating this show, if you would like to view each ballot and the reconciliation and tabulation of these; I would be happy to make them available to you, bring your children to count if needed, we have some leftover pop & fries they could enjoy, we’ll reduce the cost.
[REPLY] Forgive me for saying so, but doing it for 14 years does not make it right. The nationals, and even the bigger "local" shows have developed a system that is fair. I cannot help it if you choose to not use that which has been tried and true, and chose instead to use your own system. That said, I did not have a huge problem with your balloting so much as how difficult it was for people to vote. I can show you emails from people who complained they threw them in the trash because it was so frustrating. That, alone, renders your system as flawed.
>As for the “Cracker Jack Box”, “Kit Car” and your comments that followed, I’m just about speechless; there is so much to comment about here. You truly show your ignorance of the industry you so vehemently claim you are trying to perpetuate and support. Kit Cars are worthy projects, Kit Cars are helping keep the whole game going. In today’s world of ever increasing cost to own or purchase an original steel body car and parts, Kit cars fill the gap, so folks like you and me can still take part in little shows like the Elks.
[REPLY] From your view, perhaps. But from the view of many car folk, you should at least attempt to understand. A "kit car" is actually called a REPLICA. A REPLICA, in any language, is defined as a fake, a phony. When a "fake classic" takes the top place over true classics, that is an insult. Yes, kits have their place. But not as Top Dog among real classics.
>And the car which won the JUDGES CHOICE this weekend is a fine automobile. The owner, Mr. Merrill, is a fine man and he obviously loves and appreciates quality workmanship in automobiles. That auto probably cost him in excess of $60k to build; if you had been paying attention instead of criticizing you would also have learned the car has a 427 and he built it along with many other facts he was offering, he was showing genuine enthusiasm and respect for all by participating and responding to my inquiries.
[REPLY] I am sure Mr. Merrill is a fine man - if he were not, it is unlikely he would be in any position to afford to build such a car. Success usually comes to those who earn it. And I appreciate him sharing it with us. But it is exactly the same as putting a cubic zirconia in a show of diamonds. It may be a super stone, but it should in no way receive top honors among diamonds. Among others of its kind, yes. But not among diamonds. And as I stated in my blog, that was merely my opinion, to which I am entitled. Not all share it. But many do.
>And finally, your assessment of our organizers not caring about the car enthusiast , … and only caring about making a dime, is way off base.
[REPLY] Perhaps - but if what you say is true, then the Elks should have made an effort to SHOW it. Lip service is easy. You SHOW that you care by having the show ORGANIZED. You SHOW that you care by having appropriate classes. You SHOW you care by having at least the STANDARD number of awards. You SHOW you care by having someone make out the registration cards - because participants had to do that themselves, many could not be voted for because they were filled out incorrectly. I counted 5 "street rods" that did not say if they were "open" or "closed", so I could not vote for them.
>We absolutely try to give the entrant a nice venue to come to, we understand ALL the costs involved and we work hard to make events like this a fun place to visit. We (the organizers) are gear heads ourselves. Through your words in your blog you have chosen to break a few “un-written rules” and cast disrespect to your fellow enthusiasts;
[REPLY] Only by "breaking the unwritten rules" can BETTER rules be written. For years, the car folk have not had a voice - they have had to simply accept whatever crumbs might be thrown their way. The purpose of HotKarz.com is to change that, and make shows better for EVERYONE - including organizers.
>a) It takes all kinds to make the world go around, and if you don’t like that guy’s car, don’t buy or build one like it. But don’t go up to him and tell him it’s a piece of s__t.
[REPLY] I never did that, and for you to insinuate otherwise is disingenuous. I simply said that kit cars, in my opinion, should not receive top honors over true classics. Nothing more, nothing less. I personally loved the Cobra, and have always wanted one. And his was simply gorgeous. But it is still a REPLICA. Not the "real thing".
>2) If you don’t have anything good to say, then don’t say anything at all.
[REPLY] That is a really dumb "rule" you have. So, if your country or state is run by a tyrant, you should keep your mouth shut? Or if you go to a restaurant and the food makes you sick, you keep your mouth shut? I think you should re-evaluate your "rules". If it is your opinion that car folks should just "shut up" and accept whatever you want to offer, then you are again showing great disrespect to the car folks.
>… and,… if you were an Elk, or you ever belonged to a Fraternal organization you would understand what it means to have friends; friends who stand beside each other who heed the virtues and values offered within the walls of the organization,… friends who stand up against what is wrong and support what is right.
[REPLY] On that we agree. Unfortunately, for you it seems a bit one-sided. My friends are the car enthuisiasts. And my job IS to stand up against what is wrong, and support what is right. And it is wrong for any show organizer to run a shoddy show and expect the participants to "shut up and accept it." It is RIGHT for me to give them a voice.
>I’m extremely proud to be an Elk in charge of a “Pet Project”.
[REPLY] And you should be. But your show needs serious work. If your car does not run right, do you not take it in for repair?
>I invite you and all who read this, to visit this site http://www.maineelks.org/mccp.html and other Elks websites to get a better understanding of the efforts of the many people you have chosen to disrespect, offend and alienate through your “blog”.
[REPLY] You seem to be trying to inflate the purpose of my blog. I have said nothing to disrespect the Elks, nor offend and alienate them. I simply told the truth about the serious flaws in your CAR SHOW (not your organization), and you find the truth offensive - and that is your problem.
>In the coming months maybe you should polish your etiquette, spelling and tack with the people you claim to be supporting; rather than that PT with the gull doors? (Editor's note: pretty snotty, eh?)
[REPLY] They are not "gull doors". They are Lambo doors. Totally different animal. My etiquette is fine, thank you. And tact (not tack) does not get the job done. I do not sugar-coat things. My readers expect me to call them like I see them - and the way that they tell me that THEY see them. You should bear in mind that I write what OTHER participants tell me. When you read my blog, you are reading what THEY are saying. I only write it.
>Oh, and by the way, the committee that took a $600 loss on this years show (due to inclement weather), …..
[REPLY] I do empathize - but that does nothing to remove your responsibility to the participants. Whether you make $10,000 or lose $10,000, you have a certain obligation to those who work so hard to make your show a success - the participants. It would have cost you NOTHING to mark areas for classes, and you need not have spent a DIME on trophies or prizes. Those were YOUR choices to make. And you made the wrong ones. If you learn from them, fine - your show will likely prosper. If not, then I am sorry for you.
>after planning for months and contributing hundreds of hours of their precious family time, we all got together this evening and voted, don’t bother coming next year, you are not invited. Congratulations! In the 14 years we have run this show, you are the second entrant to be refused entry to future shows, how ironic is that? You couldn’t even get first in the insulting category!
[REPLY] And what would make you think I would want to attend your show again? Certainly not if it does not improve. But mark my words, that choice is an unwise choice to make. HotKarz.com has HUNDREDS of loyal readers. As I said, several of the participants this year showed up ONLY because of HotKarz.com. If it is your intention to bar them from having their "voice", you may as well not even have a show, as that will be the ultimate insult to them. Maybe many will still come - but many others will not. And all because you people will not not even acknowledge the problems with your show, and you get your feelings hurt when someone brings them to your attention. Fine. That is your choice. You will have to live with it. Just another poor choice made by your group. I would expect nothing less.
I do hope your future shows succeed - but if changes are not made, I doubt that they will. But until changes are made, HotKarz.com will not support it. We will post it, as we do all shows. But we will not support it unless you address the issues noted.
Bill Vaughn
Editor
HotKarz.com
P.S. I will be posting THIS email in it's entirety, so the world can see that you simply refuse to even try to understand this issue. In spite of everything, your entire letter was all about YOU, and all about the ELKS, and all about the MONEY you did not make. Not a moment was spent acknowledging that there were problems, or offering to consider making changes that the PARTICIPANTS would like to see. And that, my friend, is because I was right - you simply do not care about any needs except your own.
I, on the other hand, must care about the needs of all three components of a successful show - the organizers, the participants, and the spectators. You would do well to do the same.
Bill Vaughn
>incerely,
Steve Horne
2008 Co-Chairman
BPOE #1470, Rod and Antique Auto Show
1) It is my opinion that, as the participants in these shows, you have a right to see what goes on when an effort is made to bring issues to light in hopes they will get fixed - and the resistance that comes from it, and
2) I would like your feedback. HotKarz.com is attempting to make things better you, eventually, by raising legitimate issues, and pointing out problems so shows can improve for us all. It is a cinch that they will not improve if we, as this gentleman suggests, just "shut up and accept it." So please, let me know if you think I am off-base, or if I am "right on", or anything in between. HotKarz.com is here for your benefit, not mine. It can serve you best if you let me know where I go right, and where I go wrong. The "battle" won't be easy, or without casualties - many organizers like being able to take advantage of the participants, and do not want to change. There are many really good shows, as evidenced by those of the Knucklebusters, Yankee Cruisers, Rusty Nuts, Two Trails Cruisers, BSA of Stratham NH, Kiwanis of Concord NH, Foster's Daily Democrat of Dover NH, and many others. And I do not think it is too much to expect for others to make an attempt to put on a decent show. It is relatively simple to make most changes, and can actually save organizers money and increase profits.
Here is the letter - and my replies added into it, and returned to the sender:
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-----Original Message-----From: STEVEN HORNE <schorne@verizon.net>To: ptwoodycrew@aol.comSent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 8:34 pmSubject: Response to your blogs of this weekend#
>I expect to see this posted in it's entirety
>Steve
[REPLY] Thank you for writing. First, I write the BLOG, not you.
That said, please allow me to respond to your rather crude letter.
>While I suppose commendations should be in order for a “Simple Man” to have gained such a stature in society as to be able to hit rock bottom before launching himself to a place of such self imposed knowledge and power; I hesitate to do so, for fear that any validation of your assumed knowledge of how to actually plan, operate and manage an Auto Show would gain you any type of audience.
[REPLY] Your opinion and knowledge of my life, or my position, is ZERO, and is of no consequence, and has no place in any discussion about your show or my blog. Please refrain from such crude and low remarks in any future communications.
>The statements you make of the “Elks Club Car Show” are very hurtful and obviously meant to be malicious and callous, as you admit in your profile … “I manage to piss people off”….
[REPLY] Wrong again. They are meant to call attention to problems - and it appears they have. The only question is whether or not the Elks have any intention of improving their show in the future. It has obviously escaped you that, while you run the show to make a profit, you could make no profit without the participation of car owners. And to get that, there is an obligation to treat them with respect. The Elks failed in that, as attested to by MANY voices of participants I spoke with, and have received emails from.
>If you would have taken the time to inquire with the Chairmen of this event, you would have gained some knowledge of the dedicated and hard working folks who volunteer their spare time in an effort to make a difference in society.
[REPLY] I do understand and appreciate the efforts of the Elks in their work. It is the car show that we have issues with, and those issues are justified.
>I would have been happy to discuss your thoughts and concerns and introduced to our team of folks who always strive to do a better job and create a better “Show” for the Auto enthusiast.
[REPLY] My time and resources are limited - I do not have the time to chase down and meet with all car show organizers. I do take the time to track down shows, and post them so car folk will know about them. We posted your show, and promoted it. Several of the vehicles that attended only did so because of HotKarz.com. It is not my job to help you put together a good show. My job is to point out where work is needed, and hope that the organizers pick up on that and use the criticism to create a better show in the future.
>But instead you have chosen to question and insult the integrity of not only the show, but the individuals who volunteer but also the Elks Lodge as well as the “Pet Projects” for which the event was to raise much needed funds.
[REPLY] I did nothing of the kind. Your show had serious flaws. I pointed them out, truthfully. If the truth hurts, then that is evidence that you need to make changes. I will not say a show is "good" just to spare someone's feelings. If it is good, I will say so. If it is not, I will say so. That does not in any way relate to insulting the Elks ot its projects. Only the car show.
>If you had bothered to come forward with your thoughts and concerns you speak of in your blog; I would have told you, in years past we did establish and mark off certain areas by class,
[REPLY] All well and good. But that was not the case this year. When you charge car folks to put their $100,000 investments at risk for your benefit, you have an obligation to treat them with respect. Not ONE participant that I spoke with felt they were being treated respectfully - believe it or not, it was the Elks that were insulting. When you charge car people and then don't follow through by holding up your end, that is an insult. We held up our end, and you made money from us. What did you provide in return? No organization, no assistance, and one trophy per class - and a tiny one at that.
>AND I would have told you, over time, the folks who MOST OFTEN ATTEND this show, prefer to park where they like, thus FRIENDS can be with FRIENDS to socialize and enjoy each others company;
[REPLY] Well, I guess they did not show up this year because I spoke with close to 80% of the participants, and NOT ONE of them appreciated not having distinct classes. I would also be willing to send you a sample email I received from one of your "regulars", who has attended - and won - for three years. And even he said "Right On, Brother".
>If you had come to me and asked “What is this week’s “Pet Project”? I would have told you the proceeds help support the Sanford Elks Lodge “DRUG AWARENESS PROGRAM” which is recognized by local, state and federal governments as being the 2nd longest running drug awareness program in the country, (1st being the DARE program) . Our program goes into the local schools and establishes dialogue and openness amongst 3rd graders so they may be able to recognize and distinguish , not only bad drugs from acceptable medicine but also to distinguish bad people from those who are there to help and protect them. We do this through essay contest and poster contests and are always very well received by the school departments we approach.
[REPLY] As I said, I do appreciate the work of the Elks. Very much so. But by the same token, I simply cannot say the same about your car show. I have attended over 4000 shows in 24 states in my time. I know when a show is good and when it is not. And I speak to many participants at each show, and my blog is a true representation of the feedback THEY provide.
>When you discuss the “Trophies”, I see you as being extremely hypocritical, which is ironic, because your profile claims you hate hypocrisy? First you say trophies don’t matter, and then you say there was “only one small trophy for each class”.
[REPLY] That is not hypocrisy. I say that trophies are not the "be all" of car shows. And they are not. But is IS the method that is commonly accepted and used for show organizers to show their appreciation to the many people who risk their investment for you. It validates their work, their investment. It provides a sense of competition, and satisfaction. When you offer but one small trophy per class, you are telling the participants that you do not value what THEY have provided for your benefit - and they provide far more than you. For every 100 cars that show, there is $5-10 million dollars sitting there.
>I’ll say this, … we purchased our Trophies and Dash Plaques from a small company from Wisconsin (Rallye Productions, Inc) they are very nice folks and quite accommodating to our small show. This year’s invoice for awards and dash plaques totaled about $550. Ask your children to divide that out (it equals 110 entries at $5.00 each) in order to just break even. We registered 79 autos ($395)…. need I say more,….. Oh, I think I will…
[REPLY] You are being disingenuous. First, just because you choose to overpay for those things does not validate your position. HotKarz.com provides trophies, also. Most of ours are quite impressive, because that is what tells participants that we do appreciate them. And we could purchase larger and more trophies for far less than Rallye charges. In addition, you made money from the 50/50, did you not? And just WHO bought those? And then there was the very over-priced breakfast, and you sold MANY of those. So if it is your intent to tell me you did not make money, then I would have to object. And, if you do not make money from shows, why do you keep having them?
Furthermore, most show organizers are wise enough to get sponsors who pay for the trophies in a class. NAPA might pay for 3 trophies for "Special Interest", while the local pub might pay for the trophies for Street Rods. Get 24 sponsors, and you could have 3 fine trophies in 24 classes. THAT would draw far more vehicles, and earn you far more money. And you would SAVE that $550. By following the lead of those who understand how to run a show, your show could be huge, and much more profitable.
>We always need another source of income to help this project out, so we chose to order T-shirts, this years invoice was approximately $1039, we purchased 96 shirts, …ask your kids to stay in the room, … that equals $10.83 ea ( we’re selling them for $15.00) if we could sell all of them we would make $400. This year’s show sold $157.
[REPLY] Very high quality shirts can be had for far less. A shop in Portland makes ours for $6 per. As for "another source of income", that might not be necessary if you were to use sponsors to pay for things for you, as the successful shows do. (Kiwanis of Concord NH has it down to a science - their sponsors pay for huge trophies in 36 classes, and also provide over 200 door prizes AND substantial goody bags - all at ZERO cost to Kiwanis). It pays to work hard, but it pays better to work smart.
>Also, we chose to run our Chuck Wagon; we sell burgers, fries, dogs and soda. Our invoice this year was about $500, including propane and paper goods. We took in $680.25 and had about a third of the purchased food left over.
[REPLY] I'm sure the weather had something to do with that.
>The ballot system is the result of 14 years of operating this show, if you would like to view each ballot and the reconciliation and tabulation of these; I would be happy to make them available to you, bring your children to count if needed, we have some leftover pop & fries they could enjoy, we’ll reduce the cost.
[REPLY] Forgive me for saying so, but doing it for 14 years does not make it right. The nationals, and even the bigger "local" shows have developed a system that is fair. I cannot help it if you choose to not use that which has been tried and true, and chose instead to use your own system. That said, I did not have a huge problem with your balloting so much as how difficult it was for people to vote. I can show you emails from people who complained they threw them in the trash because it was so frustrating. That, alone, renders your system as flawed.
>As for the “Cracker Jack Box”, “Kit Car” and your comments that followed, I’m just about speechless; there is so much to comment about here. You truly show your ignorance of the industry you so vehemently claim you are trying to perpetuate and support. Kit Cars are worthy projects, Kit Cars are helping keep the whole game going. In today’s world of ever increasing cost to own or purchase an original steel body car and parts, Kit cars fill the gap, so folks like you and me can still take part in little shows like the Elks.
[REPLY] From your view, perhaps. But from the view of many car folk, you should at least attempt to understand. A "kit car" is actually called a REPLICA. A REPLICA, in any language, is defined as a fake, a phony. When a "fake classic" takes the top place over true classics, that is an insult. Yes, kits have their place. But not as Top Dog among real classics.
>And the car which won the JUDGES CHOICE this weekend is a fine automobile. The owner, Mr. Merrill, is a fine man and he obviously loves and appreciates quality workmanship in automobiles. That auto probably cost him in excess of $60k to build; if you had been paying attention instead of criticizing you would also have learned the car has a 427 and he built it along with many other facts he was offering, he was showing genuine enthusiasm and respect for all by participating and responding to my inquiries.
[REPLY] I am sure Mr. Merrill is a fine man - if he were not, it is unlikely he would be in any position to afford to build such a car. Success usually comes to those who earn it. And I appreciate him sharing it with us. But it is exactly the same as putting a cubic zirconia in a show of diamonds. It may be a super stone, but it should in no way receive top honors among diamonds. Among others of its kind, yes. But not among diamonds. And as I stated in my blog, that was merely my opinion, to which I am entitled. Not all share it. But many do.
>And finally, your assessment of our organizers not caring about the car enthusiast , … and only caring about making a dime, is way off base.
[REPLY] Perhaps - but if what you say is true, then the Elks should have made an effort to SHOW it. Lip service is easy. You SHOW that you care by having the show ORGANIZED. You SHOW that you care by having appropriate classes. You SHOW you care by having at least the STANDARD number of awards. You SHOW you care by having someone make out the registration cards - because participants had to do that themselves, many could not be voted for because they were filled out incorrectly. I counted 5 "street rods" that did not say if they were "open" or "closed", so I could not vote for them.
>We absolutely try to give the entrant a nice venue to come to, we understand ALL the costs involved and we work hard to make events like this a fun place to visit. We (the organizers) are gear heads ourselves. Through your words in your blog you have chosen to break a few “un-written rules” and cast disrespect to your fellow enthusiasts;
[REPLY] Only by "breaking the unwritten rules" can BETTER rules be written. For years, the car folk have not had a voice - they have had to simply accept whatever crumbs might be thrown their way. The purpose of HotKarz.com is to change that, and make shows better for EVERYONE - including organizers.
>a) It takes all kinds to make the world go around, and if you don’t like that guy’s car, don’t buy or build one like it. But don’t go up to him and tell him it’s a piece of s__t.
[REPLY] I never did that, and for you to insinuate otherwise is disingenuous. I simply said that kit cars, in my opinion, should not receive top honors over true classics. Nothing more, nothing less. I personally loved the Cobra, and have always wanted one. And his was simply gorgeous. But it is still a REPLICA. Not the "real thing".
>2) If you don’t have anything good to say, then don’t say anything at all.
[REPLY] That is a really dumb "rule" you have. So, if your country or state is run by a tyrant, you should keep your mouth shut? Or if you go to a restaurant and the food makes you sick, you keep your mouth shut? I think you should re-evaluate your "rules". If it is your opinion that car folks should just "shut up" and accept whatever you want to offer, then you are again showing great disrespect to the car folks.
>… and,… if you were an Elk, or you ever belonged to a Fraternal organization you would understand what it means to have friends; friends who stand beside each other who heed the virtues and values offered within the walls of the organization,… friends who stand up against what is wrong and support what is right.
[REPLY] On that we agree. Unfortunately, for you it seems a bit one-sided. My friends are the car enthuisiasts. And my job IS to stand up against what is wrong, and support what is right. And it is wrong for any show organizer to run a shoddy show and expect the participants to "shut up and accept it." It is RIGHT for me to give them a voice.
>I’m extremely proud to be an Elk in charge of a “Pet Project”.
[REPLY] And you should be. But your show needs serious work. If your car does not run right, do you not take it in for repair?
>I invite you and all who read this, to visit this site http://www.maineelks.org/mccp.html and other Elks websites to get a better understanding of the efforts of the many people you have chosen to disrespect, offend and alienate through your “blog”.
[REPLY] You seem to be trying to inflate the purpose of my blog. I have said nothing to disrespect the Elks, nor offend and alienate them. I simply told the truth about the serious flaws in your CAR SHOW (not your organization), and you find the truth offensive - and that is your problem.
>In the coming months maybe you should polish your etiquette, spelling and tack with the people you claim to be supporting; rather than that PT with the gull doors? (Editor's note: pretty snotty, eh?)
[REPLY] They are not "gull doors". They are Lambo doors. Totally different animal. My etiquette is fine, thank you. And tact (not tack) does not get the job done. I do not sugar-coat things. My readers expect me to call them like I see them - and the way that they tell me that THEY see them. You should bear in mind that I write what OTHER participants tell me. When you read my blog, you are reading what THEY are saying. I only write it.
>Oh, and by the way, the committee that took a $600 loss on this years show (due to inclement weather), …..
[REPLY] I do empathize - but that does nothing to remove your responsibility to the participants. Whether you make $10,000 or lose $10,000, you have a certain obligation to those who work so hard to make your show a success - the participants. It would have cost you NOTHING to mark areas for classes, and you need not have spent a DIME on trophies or prizes. Those were YOUR choices to make. And you made the wrong ones. If you learn from them, fine - your show will likely prosper. If not, then I am sorry for you.
>after planning for months and contributing hundreds of hours of their precious family time, we all got together this evening and voted, don’t bother coming next year, you are not invited. Congratulations! In the 14 years we have run this show, you are the second entrant to be refused entry to future shows, how ironic is that? You couldn’t even get first in the insulting category!
[REPLY] And what would make you think I would want to attend your show again? Certainly not if it does not improve. But mark my words, that choice is an unwise choice to make. HotKarz.com has HUNDREDS of loyal readers. As I said, several of the participants this year showed up ONLY because of HotKarz.com. If it is your intention to bar them from having their "voice", you may as well not even have a show, as that will be the ultimate insult to them. Maybe many will still come - but many others will not. And all because you people will not not even acknowledge the problems with your show, and you get your feelings hurt when someone brings them to your attention. Fine. That is your choice. You will have to live with it. Just another poor choice made by your group. I would expect nothing less.
I do hope your future shows succeed - but if changes are not made, I doubt that they will. But until changes are made, HotKarz.com will not support it. We will post it, as we do all shows. But we will not support it unless you address the issues noted.
Bill Vaughn
Editor
HotKarz.com
P.S. I will be posting THIS email in it's entirety, so the world can see that you simply refuse to even try to understand this issue. In spite of everything, your entire letter was all about YOU, and all about the ELKS, and all about the MONEY you did not make. Not a moment was spent acknowledging that there were problems, or offering to consider making changes that the PARTICIPANTS would like to see. And that, my friend, is because I was right - you simply do not care about any needs except your own.
I, on the other hand, must care about the needs of all three components of a successful show - the organizers, the participants, and the spectators. You would do well to do the same.
Bill Vaughn
>incerely,
Steve Horne
2008 Co-Chairman
BPOE #1470, Rod and Antique Auto Show
Post Turtles
Just a little something I ran across...
While suturing a cut on the hand of a Texas Rancher whose hand had been caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually, the topic got around to Obama and his bid for the presidency.
The old rancher said, "Well, ya know, Obama is a 'post turtle'."
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked, 'What is a post turtle'?
The old rancher said, "When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'."
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain. "You know he didn't get up there by himself, and he sure as heck doesn't belong up there, and he doesn't know what to do while he is up there - and you just wonder what kind of an idiot put him there in the first place."
While suturing a cut on the hand of a Texas Rancher whose hand had been caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually, the topic got around to Obama and his bid for the presidency.
The old rancher said, "Well, ya know, Obama is a 'post turtle'."
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked, 'What is a post turtle'?
The old rancher said, "When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle'."
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain. "You know he didn't get up there by himself, and he sure as heck doesn't belong up there, and he doesn't know what to do while he is up there - and you just wonder what kind of an idiot put him there in the first place."
Monday, June 30, 2008
To All Show Organizers
If you have read the last few posts, you will understand why this post is being written.
It is the mission of HotKarz.com to help make our hobby the best it can be. We would like all shows to be the best they can be, so everyone gets maximum benefit - spectators get maximum "eye candy", to attract them, car folks get the respect they are due with a fair chance to win a worthwhile award, and organizers make more money because the show prospers from growth.
To this end, it is sometimes necessary to "pan" a show - to point out its weak points. And it is always necessary for us to be honest - sometimes brutally so. But we do not do that for nefarious reasons. It is meant as constructive criticism. It is hoped that you will read what others have to say, and use that info to discover ways in which you may improve your show, for your own benefit as well as everyone else's.
The downside, of course, is that HotKarz.com has some influence, and a poor review could keep folks from showing up next year. That is not the intent, it would not be fair, nor is it the result being sought. Therefore, all organizers whose shows do not receive a good review are encouraged to consider the criticism and suggestions, and get back to us to let us know what, if anything, you plan to change for next year. We will then post that info so everyone can see that your show will (or will not) be even better next year, and will not avoid your show unnecessarily. They will know what to expect.
Please bear in mind that there is never any malice. The objective of HotKarz.com is to give everyone a voice so that together we can make things better for everyone. Now, more than ever, with fuel so very expensive, car folk must often make hard choices about which shows they will or will not attend. Those choices should be based on accurate information as to just what they can expect from the show.
They count on HotKarz.com for an honest accounting.
And HotKarz.com depends upon your input as to what we can expect if we attend your show. So please help us by joining with us to work at being the best we can be. Remember - for every 100 cars that fill your field, there is probably between 5 and 10 million dollars invested by the entrants. And that deserves the best show possible.
Naturally, we fully realize that not all shows can be mega-shows, nor do they have to be "great". But there should be evidence of thought, planning and proper execution, regardless of the scale, along with a sense of respect. We understand that you must make a worthwhile profit, and to that end we provide a fairly comprehensive Guideline for a successful show. With it, you may very well be able to put on a better show at less cost to you, while making your show grow each year, to further increase profits. Profits can only come from participation. And participation can only come from putting on a worthy show.
We hope that together we can make car shows more profitable for you, and more enjoyable for those who participate.
If you would like a copy of the proposed outline for a successful show, please feel free to print it out. Same with a sample of classes. And if you would like free "Spectator Code of Conduct" cards, just ask. We are here to serve all in this hobby. We also welcome your own suggestions. We are in this together. We need to work together if we are all to prosper.
Respectfully,
Bill Vaughn
Editor
HotKarz.com
It is the mission of HotKarz.com to help make our hobby the best it can be. We would like all shows to be the best they can be, so everyone gets maximum benefit - spectators get maximum "eye candy", to attract them, car folks get the respect they are due with a fair chance to win a worthwhile award, and organizers make more money because the show prospers from growth.
To this end, it is sometimes necessary to "pan" a show - to point out its weak points. And it is always necessary for us to be honest - sometimes brutally so. But we do not do that for nefarious reasons. It is meant as constructive criticism. It is hoped that you will read what others have to say, and use that info to discover ways in which you may improve your show, for your own benefit as well as everyone else's.
The downside, of course, is that HotKarz.com has some influence, and a poor review could keep folks from showing up next year. That is not the intent, it would not be fair, nor is it the result being sought. Therefore, all organizers whose shows do not receive a good review are encouraged to consider the criticism and suggestions, and get back to us to let us know what, if anything, you plan to change for next year. We will then post that info so everyone can see that your show will (or will not) be even better next year, and will not avoid your show unnecessarily. They will know what to expect.
Please bear in mind that there is never any malice. The objective of HotKarz.com is to give everyone a voice so that together we can make things better for everyone. Now, more than ever, with fuel so very expensive, car folk must often make hard choices about which shows they will or will not attend. Those choices should be based on accurate information as to just what they can expect from the show.
They count on HotKarz.com for an honest accounting.
And HotKarz.com depends upon your input as to what we can expect if we attend your show. So please help us by joining with us to work at being the best we can be. Remember - for every 100 cars that fill your field, there is probably between 5 and 10 million dollars invested by the entrants. And that deserves the best show possible.
Naturally, we fully realize that not all shows can be mega-shows, nor do they have to be "great". But there should be evidence of thought, planning and proper execution, regardless of the scale, along with a sense of respect. We understand that you must make a worthwhile profit, and to that end we provide a fairly comprehensive Guideline for a successful show. With it, you may very well be able to put on a better show at less cost to you, while making your show grow each year, to further increase profits. Profits can only come from participation. And participation can only come from putting on a worthy show.
We hope that together we can make car shows more profitable for you, and more enjoyable for those who participate.
If you would like a copy of the proposed outline for a successful show, please feel free to print it out. Same with a sample of classes. And if you would like free "Spectator Code of Conduct" cards, just ask. We are here to serve all in this hobby. We also welcome your own suggestions. We are in this together. We need to work together if we are all to prosper.
Respectfully,
Bill Vaughn
Editor
HotKarz.com
In All Fairness...
I received the following email today (name withheld). I thought it appropriate to post it, and my reply, right here for all to see, so that perhaps there will be a better understanding of the mission of HotKarz.com (which I will state clearly at the end).
-----Original Message-----From: ***********To: ptwoodycrew@aol.comSent: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:49 am
Subject: Sanford car show
"It must be very easy to sit and judge other people from way up there. My wife and I volunteer each year to help the folks who put on the car show . We are not members of the Sanford Elks or any other Elks for that matter. We are just car folks, the reason that we give our time is because ALL of the proceeds from that show go to the Maine Children's Cancer Program. It has nothing to do with trophies or classes. Maybe if people like you would give them a hand instead of criticizing their effort the show would improve. If the stinkin five bucks is so important to I will send it to you."
Our response:
"Thank you for writing, Ed, but it appears you suffer from the same malady as some show organizers - you can only view this from YOUR perspective of raising money for some project.
"That is well and good, but you really need to stop and think that this is NOT the reason car folks go to these shows. For most of them it IS about classes and trophies. They invest many tens of thousands of dollars into their vehicles. They pay $4.00 a gallon to attend your show so YOU can raise money. They then PAY to get in, so YOU can make more money. They spend hours polishing so YOU can make money. They buy 50/50's so YOU can make money. The average participant spends $30-$50 to attend your show, not counting the money invested in their cars. Believe me when I tell you that they would not do ANY of that if not for the chance to receive validation for their efforts. How many cars do you think would show up if you advertised there would be no trophies?
"Organizers have an obligation to treat those who make their show possible with respect. The very least that organizers can and should do is offer a FAIR show, with classes, proper judging, and adequate trophies. Otherwise, it will just be another poor show that is designed only to support a cause, without regard fore those who make it possible.
"It is commendable that you volunteer to help. But you need to recognize that the participants are also giving up an entire day, lots of elbow grease, gas money and the cost of their vehicles to help you do that, not to mention having to pay a fee to get in. That fee is supposed to help pay for putting on a good show. The participants deserve recognition.
"The Elks did very little to that end.
"The needs of THREE groups MUST be considered when hosting a show:
1) The needs of the host (fundraising), which was adequately covered by the Elks
2) The needs of the participants, i.e. adequate classes, fair judging and worthwhile trophies (not covered)
3) The needs of spectators who will not come if there is not enough "eye candy" (covered well, thanks only to the participants)
"There will not be enough eye candy if cars stop showing up because the Elks won't consider any needs but their own. And the Elks cannot make a dime from the shows if paticipants decide to go elsewhere.
"The only way EVERYONE wins is if the Elks put on the best possible show, which attracts more participants and more spectators, and results in more money raised. But it all hinges on whether or not you get the cars. So you owe it to the car folk to treat them fairly and with respect.
"THAT is how the show will improve. And that is the ONLY way it can improve. And only by having someone like HotKarz to point these things out will any improvements ever get made. You simply cannot fix something if you do not even realize it is broken.
"And it is not about the "five stinkin bucks" - if you think it is, your head is in the wrong place. It's about having a show that is worth going to, participating in, and supporting because the organizers have considered the needs of ALL parties, and not just their own. We have been to shows that specifically INVITED, personally, people who have newer cars. They promised to have a class for us. So several of us went, spent $$$ on gas, gave up a day, and paid $8 each to get in. And guess what - we were ALL thrown into "Special Interest" because they had no classes for any of us. Since we really did not fit into that class, none of us had the slightest chance of being able to compete. For those organizers, it was all about the money, and to Hell with the participants who made it possible. Believe me when I say that show will be a huge bust next year. They will lose because they did not consider anyone but themselves. If they get more than the 12 cars from their own club members, it would surprise me.
"The Elks were a little better, but not much.
"Oh, and I don't sit and judge from "way up there". I judged from right there, at the show. And I only call it like it is. If there is anything that I wrote that is untrue, please let me know. To the best of my knowledge, it was all true, and therefore needed to be said. (As many of our readers are well aware, I interview many participants, and take note of how they feel about the show, so my "opinion" is not just mine - it is a collection of all that I pick up from other participants.)
"And though it has already been only two days, I have already heard from 7 other people who complimented us on our coverage, and laud our efforts. And three of those won trophies, yet they still understood that the show left much to be desired, and should be improved.
"Every show organizer has the right to read our review, and then decide whether or not they will make any changes for next year. If they do, they can let us know and we will spread the word that the show will be improved, and in what ways. This way, participants can decide whether or not to invest $50 to attend, based on knowledge, and not "pie in the sky". That is only fair. If the organizer chooses not to make improvements, that is their choice. In that case, HotKarz will stand by its review, and prior to the next year's show, will remind our 700+ regular readers that the show, which was poor the previous year, has chosen to ignore making any improvements. In this way, they can spend that $50 going to a show that DOES appreciate their efforts and expense. "
Bill Vaughn
Editor
HotKarz.com
For those who may not fully understand the mission of HotKarz.com, here it is:
"To work on behalf of car enthusiasts throughout Maine and New Hampshire by publishing shows, cruises, events and club info; by reviewing those events, shows and cruises; providing timely information useful to enthusiasts, organizers and spectators; and to promote the hobby by assisting organizers to produce superior shows that benefit all."
We also work tirelessly to help design a set of guidelines that assure a good show, a list of classes, tips and suggestions, and make certain items available for free to organizers, such as the "Spectator Code of Conduct" cards, printed and sent at our own expense. And we charge no one for the services we freely provide. We pick up the cost.
We sponsor events, we sponsor trophy classes at shows, and we may even host our own regional show.
In short, HotKarz.com will do whatever it takes to make your hobby better and more enjoyable, even at the risk of angering those who have for too long taken undue advantage because there was no "voice" to speak up for you. Now there is. Feel free to use it.
Bill
-----Original Message-----From: ***********To: ptwoodycrew@aol.comSent: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:49 am
Subject: Sanford car show
"It must be very easy to sit and judge other people from way up there. My wife and I volunteer each year to help the folks who put on the car show . We are not members of the Sanford Elks or any other Elks for that matter. We are just car folks, the reason that we give our time is because ALL of the proceeds from that show go to the Maine Children's Cancer Program. It has nothing to do with trophies or classes. Maybe if people like you would give them a hand instead of criticizing their effort the show would improve. If the stinkin five bucks is so important to I will send it to you."
Our response:
"Thank you for writing, Ed, but it appears you suffer from the same malady as some show organizers - you can only view this from YOUR perspective of raising money for some project.
"That is well and good, but you really need to stop and think that this is NOT the reason car folks go to these shows. For most of them it IS about classes and trophies. They invest many tens of thousands of dollars into their vehicles. They pay $4.00 a gallon to attend your show so YOU can raise money. They then PAY to get in, so YOU can make more money. They spend hours polishing so YOU can make money. They buy 50/50's so YOU can make money. The average participant spends $30-$50 to attend your show, not counting the money invested in their cars. Believe me when I tell you that they would not do ANY of that if not for the chance to receive validation for their efforts. How many cars do you think would show up if you advertised there would be no trophies?
"Organizers have an obligation to treat those who make their show possible with respect. The very least that organizers can and should do is offer a FAIR show, with classes, proper judging, and adequate trophies. Otherwise, it will just be another poor show that is designed only to support a cause, without regard fore those who make it possible.
"It is commendable that you volunteer to help. But you need to recognize that the participants are also giving up an entire day, lots of elbow grease, gas money and the cost of their vehicles to help you do that, not to mention having to pay a fee to get in. That fee is supposed to help pay for putting on a good show. The participants deserve recognition.
"The Elks did very little to that end.
"The needs of THREE groups MUST be considered when hosting a show:
1) The needs of the host (fundraising), which was adequately covered by the Elks
2) The needs of the participants, i.e. adequate classes, fair judging and worthwhile trophies (not covered)
3) The needs of spectators who will not come if there is not enough "eye candy" (covered well, thanks only to the participants)
"There will not be enough eye candy if cars stop showing up because the Elks won't consider any needs but their own. And the Elks cannot make a dime from the shows if paticipants decide to go elsewhere.
"The only way EVERYONE wins is if the Elks put on the best possible show, which attracts more participants and more spectators, and results in more money raised. But it all hinges on whether or not you get the cars. So you owe it to the car folk to treat them fairly and with respect.
"THAT is how the show will improve. And that is the ONLY way it can improve. And only by having someone like HotKarz to point these things out will any improvements ever get made. You simply cannot fix something if you do not even realize it is broken.
"And it is not about the "five stinkin bucks" - if you think it is, your head is in the wrong place. It's about having a show that is worth going to, participating in, and supporting because the organizers have considered the needs of ALL parties, and not just their own. We have been to shows that specifically INVITED, personally, people who have newer cars. They promised to have a class for us. So several of us went, spent $$$ on gas, gave up a day, and paid $8 each to get in. And guess what - we were ALL thrown into "Special Interest" because they had no classes for any of us. Since we really did not fit into that class, none of us had the slightest chance of being able to compete. For those organizers, it was all about the money, and to Hell with the participants who made it possible. Believe me when I say that show will be a huge bust next year. They will lose because they did not consider anyone but themselves. If they get more than the 12 cars from their own club members, it would surprise me.
"The Elks were a little better, but not much.
"Oh, and I don't sit and judge from "way up there". I judged from right there, at the show. And I only call it like it is. If there is anything that I wrote that is untrue, please let me know. To the best of my knowledge, it was all true, and therefore needed to be said. (As many of our readers are well aware, I interview many participants, and take note of how they feel about the show, so my "opinion" is not just mine - it is a collection of all that I pick up from other participants.)
"And though it has already been only two days, I have already heard from 7 other people who complimented us on our coverage, and laud our efforts. And three of those won trophies, yet they still understood that the show left much to be desired, and should be improved.
"Every show organizer has the right to read our review, and then decide whether or not they will make any changes for next year. If they do, they can let us know and we will spread the word that the show will be improved, and in what ways. This way, participants can decide whether or not to invest $50 to attend, based on knowledge, and not "pie in the sky". That is only fair. If the organizer chooses not to make improvements, that is their choice. In that case, HotKarz will stand by its review, and prior to the next year's show, will remind our 700+ regular readers that the show, which was poor the previous year, has chosen to ignore making any improvements. In this way, they can spend that $50 going to a show that DOES appreciate their efforts and expense. "
Bill Vaughn
Editor
HotKarz.com
For those who may not fully understand the mission of HotKarz.com, here it is:
"To work on behalf of car enthusiasts throughout Maine and New Hampshire by publishing shows, cruises, events and club info; by reviewing those events, shows and cruises; providing timely information useful to enthusiasts, organizers and spectators; and to promote the hobby by assisting organizers to produce superior shows that benefit all."
We also work tirelessly to help design a set of guidelines that assure a good show, a list of classes, tips and suggestions, and make certain items available for free to organizers, such as the "Spectator Code of Conduct" cards, printed and sent at our own expense. And we charge no one for the services we freely provide. We pick up the cost.
We sponsor events, we sponsor trophy classes at shows, and we may even host our own regional show.
In short, HotKarz.com will do whatever it takes to make your hobby better and more enjoyable, even at the risk of angering those who have for too long taken undue advantage because there was no "voice" to speak up for you. Now there is. Feel free to use it.
Bill
Sunday, June 29, 2008
Long Weekend
(NOTE: Due to "rain-outs", the Super Cruise Balloting schedule has changed.)
Yes, this has, indeed, been a long weekend. It started early Saturday morning at the Sanford show, followed by Moonlight Madness in Rochester NH, then the Sunapee NH show today.
So, forgive me if I have not updated since Friday night.
The Sanford show was rather dismal, weather-wise. And in other respects, as well. When we arrived, we were told to park anywhere. And that is exactly what everyone did, making it nearly impossible to vote for cars by class. Just when you found a car to vote for and wrote it in, at the other end of the strip you would find a better one in the same class. It was a morning of endless walking back and forth, trying to judge fairly. Many folks just gave up in frustration. The Elks said they did not have the manpower to put up signs for classes - well, maybe they need to hold a membership drive instead of a car show. Just how much "manpower" does it take to put up signs showing the classes? I'll bet even I could manage to do that.
To make things worse, there was only one, small trophy for each class. Trophies, themselves, have no real importance, but it is the "something" that makes it worthwhile for car folks to spend a lot for gas, polish, and their time just so some organization can fund their pet projects at our expense. Trophies are the "reward" for the time, effort and expense we go to. While most of us do not covet them, we do enjoy the competion, and recognition of our efforts. And organizers should remember that they cannot earn a dime from a show without us car folk, so they really need to show a little appreciation for what we put into it. Organizers like the Sanford Elks do not bother with that - it would seem their only concern is how much money they can make from us, while putting back as little as possible. When organizers put so little thought and effort into their show, it is a slap in the face to those who make the show possible - the car folks.
That's fine, for them. But they will not get any of my money in the future. My loyalties extend to those who are loyal to us, and give as good as they get. If they do not care about my efforts to come to their show, spend megabucks building, hours polishing and then $4.00 per gallon to travel, then I do not care about their efforts to take my money. Simple.
As a side note, and I know this is a personal thing, but it always irritates me to see a kit car out of a Cracker Jack box winning Best of Show. That's too much like buying the trophy. And a kit car took those honors at Sanford, which is a REAL slap in the face to those dedicated souls that actually labored for years over their cars, preserving authentic cars for posterity. It takes no dedication to buy or build a car from a kit. It rates right up there with giving your fiancee a ring you got out of one of those Penny Arcade trawler games. Just my opinion. I know it is not shared by all.
So, off we went to Rochester NH for the "Moonlight Madness". And that was even a bigger disappointment. Nothing the organizers promised seemed to materialize. No NESN, no nuthin'. We never saw any of the organizers until it was almost over, when they walked around handing out dash plaques - but if you were not with your car at the time, you did not even get that. They told us early on via email that awards were at 6. Well, at 6:30 they came around (with the dash plaques) and when I asked, they said "awards at 7:30".
The MC with the microphone was on a DIFFERENT STREET, so the car people could not hear anything. And at 7:00, they gave both trophies to two local boys, without the car folk even knowing the trophies had been given out already - we were still waiting for 7:30!
I must admit, the first trophy was deserved by the fellow with the 444. But the trophy for "Best Modified" went to a primered, nearly unmodified Ford, owned by a local fellow. Meanwhile, there were at least 20 far superior modified vehicles that received not even a word of recognition - 2 Mercs, a Tbird, a 31 Ford and "Ol' Blue". By the time I returned to my own car, I heard at least a dozen people say it was rigged in favor of locals. Of that I have no doubt. It is no wonder they call it "Moonlight Madness", as a person would have to be a lunatic to give that "show" a second chance - unless, of course, you are a well-known local boy, on first-name terms with the organizers.
I must admit, I was so frustrated by these two back-to-back disappointments that I almost canceled my plans to go to the Sunapee Show today. And the weather that was promised only dampened my spirits further, no pun intended. But my sweet wife decided we needed to go, in the hopes that the Sunapee show would "rescue" an otherwise doomed weekend. She assured me it would not rain.
So, we went. And for two hours we drove through some of the heaviest rain I have ever seen. But as we approached Sunapee, it stopped! And later, the sun came out and it was just beautiful.
The Lion's Club had everything planned and laid out just right. They had a poor choice of classes (some classes had NO entries, and several only had one), but at least they were laid out properly. And the "ushers" knew exactly where to put you. More than that, the organizers were actually friendly - something we had not seen much of on the previous day.
The Sunapee Show was a judged event. And I must admit that, even though we took home a 1st place, I would be the first to say that the judging ability of the judges could be improved. In more than one class, the appropriate trophies were not awarded to the vehicles that earned them. Now, it could be said that is a matter of opinion, but it is not. When peers judge, that is opinion. But in a judged event, it is not based on opinion, but on points. And on a points basis, some of the vehicles that should not have won were still able to take the awards. For example, 25% of the points were awarded for "under the hood", and 25% for "interior". Yet in one class, the car that took 1st place did not even open his hood, and his interior was not top-notch. And a competitor in that class that was a superior vehicle in every aspect, inside and out, got 2nd place.
But for the most part, judging wasn't all that bad - but next year they should find people who know cars a little better, and have no bias. There is nothing wrong with a judged event unless the judges are not qualified. There is nothing more frustrating than to hear a judge say, "Wow, I had a Camaro like that when I was a kid," then promptly "vote" for it because of that bias. Judges must be knowledgeable, and must leave their bias home.
But the weak spot in their show was how they ran (or didn't run) Best of Show. Anyone could pick up one, two or twenty ballots. There was no regulation at all. I told Robin that someone would take advantage of that and cast many votes, and a vehicle that had no chance of winning in an honest vote would likely take home the trophy.
Well, there were about two dozen vehicles that COULD have legitimately claimed Best of Show, but the car that took the trophy certainly was not one of them. Not even close. Just an ordinary, unimpressive '66 Mustang that was not even able to win in his own class against 3 other Mustangs! Yet, he took Best of Show. What's wrong with that picture?
Next year, the Lion's would do well to ISSUE ballots to people - only one per person, rather than leave them on the table to be picked up in quantity by anyone desperate enough to win.
All in all, on a scale of 1-10, I would have given Sanford a "3". Moonlight Madness would have received a "0". Sunapee would have ranked about a "7". And I don't give an "7" lightly. I only gave my wife an "8" when we got married - just below God, who is the only one to ever get a "9" :o)
By the way, the next time you see Stan Page, please loan him a wrench...
Don't forget to check out the latest "Funnies".
Yes, this has, indeed, been a long weekend. It started early Saturday morning at the Sanford show, followed by Moonlight Madness in Rochester NH, then the Sunapee NH show today.
So, forgive me if I have not updated since Friday night.
The Sanford show was rather dismal, weather-wise. And in other respects, as well. When we arrived, we were told to park anywhere. And that is exactly what everyone did, making it nearly impossible to vote for cars by class. Just when you found a car to vote for and wrote it in, at the other end of the strip you would find a better one in the same class. It was a morning of endless walking back and forth, trying to judge fairly. Many folks just gave up in frustration. The Elks said they did not have the manpower to put up signs for classes - well, maybe they need to hold a membership drive instead of a car show. Just how much "manpower" does it take to put up signs showing the classes? I'll bet even I could manage to do that.
To make things worse, there was only one, small trophy for each class. Trophies, themselves, have no real importance, but it is the "something" that makes it worthwhile for car folks to spend a lot for gas, polish, and their time just so some organization can fund their pet projects at our expense. Trophies are the "reward" for the time, effort and expense we go to. While most of us do not covet them, we do enjoy the competion, and recognition of our efforts. And organizers should remember that they cannot earn a dime from a show without us car folk, so they really need to show a little appreciation for what we put into it. Organizers like the Sanford Elks do not bother with that - it would seem their only concern is how much money they can make from us, while putting back as little as possible. When organizers put so little thought and effort into their show, it is a slap in the face to those who make the show possible - the car folks.
That's fine, for them. But they will not get any of my money in the future. My loyalties extend to those who are loyal to us, and give as good as they get. If they do not care about my efforts to come to their show, spend megabucks building, hours polishing and then $4.00 per gallon to travel, then I do not care about their efforts to take my money. Simple.
As a side note, and I know this is a personal thing, but it always irritates me to see a kit car out of a Cracker Jack box winning Best of Show. That's too much like buying the trophy. And a kit car took those honors at Sanford, which is a REAL slap in the face to those dedicated souls that actually labored for years over their cars, preserving authentic cars for posterity. It takes no dedication to buy or build a car from a kit. It rates right up there with giving your fiancee a ring you got out of one of those Penny Arcade trawler games. Just my opinion. I know it is not shared by all.
So, off we went to Rochester NH for the "Moonlight Madness". And that was even a bigger disappointment. Nothing the organizers promised seemed to materialize. No NESN, no nuthin'. We never saw any of the organizers until it was almost over, when they walked around handing out dash plaques - but if you were not with your car at the time, you did not even get that. They told us early on via email that awards were at 6. Well, at 6:30 they came around (with the dash plaques) and when I asked, they said "awards at 7:30".
The MC with the microphone was on a DIFFERENT STREET, so the car people could not hear anything. And at 7:00, they gave both trophies to two local boys, without the car folk even knowing the trophies had been given out already - we were still waiting for 7:30!
I must admit, the first trophy was deserved by the fellow with the 444. But the trophy for "Best Modified" went to a primered, nearly unmodified Ford, owned by a local fellow. Meanwhile, there were at least 20 far superior modified vehicles that received not even a word of recognition - 2 Mercs, a Tbird, a 31 Ford and "Ol' Blue". By the time I returned to my own car, I heard at least a dozen people say it was rigged in favor of locals. Of that I have no doubt. It is no wonder they call it "Moonlight Madness", as a person would have to be a lunatic to give that "show" a second chance - unless, of course, you are a well-known local boy, on first-name terms with the organizers.
I must admit, I was so frustrated by these two back-to-back disappointments that I almost canceled my plans to go to the Sunapee Show today. And the weather that was promised only dampened my spirits further, no pun intended. But my sweet wife decided we needed to go, in the hopes that the Sunapee show would "rescue" an otherwise doomed weekend. She assured me it would not rain.
So, we went. And for two hours we drove through some of the heaviest rain I have ever seen. But as we approached Sunapee, it stopped! And later, the sun came out and it was just beautiful.
The Lion's Club had everything planned and laid out just right. They had a poor choice of classes (some classes had NO entries, and several only had one), but at least they were laid out properly. And the "ushers" knew exactly where to put you. More than that, the organizers were actually friendly - something we had not seen much of on the previous day.
The Sunapee Show was a judged event. And I must admit that, even though we took home a 1st place, I would be the first to say that the judging ability of the judges could be improved. In more than one class, the appropriate trophies were not awarded to the vehicles that earned them. Now, it could be said that is a matter of opinion, but it is not. When peers judge, that is opinion. But in a judged event, it is not based on opinion, but on points. And on a points basis, some of the vehicles that should not have won were still able to take the awards. For example, 25% of the points were awarded for "under the hood", and 25% for "interior". Yet in one class, the car that took 1st place did not even open his hood, and his interior was not top-notch. And a competitor in that class that was a superior vehicle in every aspect, inside and out, got 2nd place.
But for the most part, judging wasn't all that bad - but next year they should find people who know cars a little better, and have no bias. There is nothing wrong with a judged event unless the judges are not qualified. There is nothing more frustrating than to hear a judge say, "Wow, I had a Camaro like that when I was a kid," then promptly "vote" for it because of that bias. Judges must be knowledgeable, and must leave their bias home.
But the weak spot in their show was how they ran (or didn't run) Best of Show. Anyone could pick up one, two or twenty ballots. There was no regulation at all. I told Robin that someone would take advantage of that and cast many votes, and a vehicle that had no chance of winning in an honest vote would likely take home the trophy.
Well, there were about two dozen vehicles that COULD have legitimately claimed Best of Show, but the car that took the trophy certainly was not one of them. Not even close. Just an ordinary, unimpressive '66 Mustang that was not even able to win in his own class against 3 other Mustangs! Yet, he took Best of Show. What's wrong with that picture?
Next year, the Lion's would do well to ISSUE ballots to people - only one per person, rather than leave them on the table to be picked up in quantity by anyone desperate enough to win.
All in all, on a scale of 1-10, I would have given Sanford a "3". Moonlight Madness would have received a "0". Sunapee would have ranked about a "7". And I don't give an "7" lightly. I only gave my wife an "8" when we got married - just below God, who is the only one to ever get a "9" :o)
By the way, the next time you see Stan Page, please loan him a wrench...
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